Friday, November 9, 2007

$66,000 an Acre in Page

Seriously. We could move the county administration building to Rappahannock and buy land for a lot less than $66,000 an acre.

It turns out its 9 acres for $600,000.

In a down market. With no one else bidding or trying to buy that same land.

The real beauty of a plan for the county to buy land at $66,000 an acre is that after the sale, that number will go into the database of sold land, and when the state counts the land sold compared to the price, considering how LITTLE land will be sold in Page, it will dominate the numbers, and make our real estate values look LOW, because the database contains very few sales except that crazy one.

Then Tommy La France can tell Charlie Campbell it's okay to do a reassessment, because the values went up again, and they need the extra money to pay for the school athletic fields, the county office COMPLEX, etc etc

Anybody who can find some alternative land for the county to buy, at an actual reasonable market price -- they're looking for 9 acres. Somebody go find them an alternative and post it quick. They need parking areas, flat land, easily accessible, near town. Then call 743-4142 and ask to talk to Mark Belton.

Fact is: if no alternative 9 acres shows up, they still have 3 of the 5 votes to push this kind of stuff through. Who will vote for it? For SURE, John Rust will vote for it. Tommy LaFrance will vote for it. And then either Carol Lee or Charlie will vote for it, depending on factors I haven't figured out yet. Interesting that Charles Ballard's seat was left empty for so long, without a temporary fill in. It makes 3 the winning number.

Mark Belton. What are you thinking?

To the posters out there whose posts are being rejected. Try focusing on THIS. Baby steps, people. Take it slow. Don't step on the mines.

OR, maybe the Blog is still full of crap, and it's true that "prime" commercial land in Page is worth $66,000 an acre.

Let's go with that. Does anybody have any data to support any price in Page on land for $66,000 an acre? What did that developer who bought the land next to the Mimslyn for condos pay? That's prime commercial real estate in town. Yo, I'd bet HE'd sell it for $66,000 an acre. And hire a band to play "happy days are here again" after he signed the contract.

Can anybody come up with some FACTS? Blissful? Peter Rabbit? Chris Says? This is the way to accomplish your goals, through facts and responsive information.

Without that, all we got here is a Yellow Brick Road.

59 comments:

Anonymous said...

137 acres on Leaksville Road sold in 2006 for 28K per acre

Land deals > 2 acres in 2007:

4.2 for $69.9 ($16K per acre)
5.1 for $60 ($12K per acre)
4.7 for $75K (15.9 per acre)
3.5 for $123 ($35K per acre, listed for $90K; was there a 'bidding war?')
50 for $85K ($1.7 per acre)
4 for $130K ($32.5 per acre)

Anonymous said...

14 land deals currently listed on MLS:

15 for 179K (11.9 per acre)
20 for 195K (9.75 per acre)
25 for 195K (7.8K per acre)
15 fir 199K (13.2K per acre, originally listed for $299K, on market 588 days)
13 for 199K (12 lots or $16.6 per lot)
16 for $210
12 for $219
15 for $250
56 for $280
13 for $300 (fenced with pond)
50 for $550
16 for $799 ($50K per acre, on market for 227 days)
47 for $990K
500 for $3.75M

Anonymous said...

John Coleman paid 100K for an acre where he built his new building.

Find out what Bob Harrison paid for the vacant lots between bank and hawksbill st. I think you will find more than 100K an acre


one of the reasons to build a new complex rather than move from one delapidated building to another delapidated building downtown is parking.

Anonymous said...

alice, your analysis of the idea of the county's purchase of the 'old rosser fairground property' is not exactly correct (don't have time to go into detail at the moment) but is headed in the right direction. part of that property is, i believe, in the (heaven forbid) flood plane and (to do it correctly, which of course the county never does) would require much grading. the 66,000 per acre price tag (for that property) is not as far out of line as many of you believe. sometimes paying too much in the 'short term' is the correct action 'in the long term'. with cave now on the bos the clique no longer has to worry about any votes on that board. sours will consider the people, strickler, as usual, will only consider her expense account and cubbage will continue considering where he is so the needed votes will now always be there. the property is prime but we do not need a new county office building now. purchasing that property probably is not a bad idea although the town of luray should have purchased it several years ago and built a new town office there instead of remodeling in the congested downtown. they could have located the fire dept. there also instead of the ridiculous present site up against the railroad. but it all gravities back to the one and only page county truism: that path which government in page county chooses is always the wrong path. even when it's right it's wrong!

Anonymous said...

Once again our current BoS is trying to sneak one by the people of the county. Spending $600,000 just for property to build a county administration building sets the stage for more tax increases the people of the county can’t afford. It would appear our current Board is trying to slick this questionable action through before the end of the year so that Mr. Cave and Mr. Sours can’t question it as sitting supervisors. This underhanded action reflects a continued disrespect for the people of this county. It should be particularly insulting to the people of District 3 since they have had no representation on the Board for almost a year. The election results would seem to indicate that District 2 citizens feel they haven’t had much in the way of representation as well.

To entertain a vote on this matter before Mr. Cave and Mr. Sours take office is patently dishonest. The current Board will go through the motions of a public hearing as they typically do but since from all reports the action is a done deal, it won’t matter. Business as usual for our current Board!

Anonymous said...

i hate to change the subject.
1. how much is it going to cost to rennovate LHS?
2. how much is going to be spent to rennovate PCHS?
unless i am mistaken, these costs were not, and are not, being included in any planning. if i missed something, i stand corrected. thank you.
thanks.
would like to know.

Anonymous said...

Chris says That seems awful high but I'm sure the price will be sugarcoated to make it look like a great deal. Page County get's what it has voted for in the past and present another bad deal. I hiope they triple the tax assements because some of us poor people can pay for this and the rich can skate again. I love it. You voted for Page now set back and take it.
I would have thought this County would learn one day but I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

I still do not understand the need for two new schools in the county or the analysis that went into it. If the population is not expected to grow, and if the existing schools are not overcrowded, BUT middle schools were wanted, why not slap new signs on two of the five elementary schools in the county and call them middle schools...if all that's being done, absent population growth, is shifting existing kids around? I've already apologized for missing the debate, AND I've already been told 'it's public record,' so I guess I'm curious as to why no one's answered, other than to say 'we wanted middle schools.'

Page County Watch said...

Would Like to Know: It's my understanding that those costs have not been included in the planning, just as many other costs related to the schools have not been included. But to get the real facts, why not call 743-4142, the county administration office, ask your questions, and post the answers?

Page Denizen: the elementary schools are overcrowded right now. They have set up trailers on their grounds to handle the children. The idea was that the current high schools would be middle schools, thus relieving the overcrowding in the elementary schools. The question then became one high school or two? Many people wanted two high schools, but it wasn't an economic analysis. It was that many people wanted it. It's a long bus ride for the kids if there's only one school.

Anonymous said...

THANK YOU Alice!!

Anonymous said...

When the two new schools are completed, with water and sewer, and furnished, and LHS and PCHS have been rennovated, and when TWO middle schools and TWO high schools are fully staffed, and the new County Admin complex is completed, and we continue to pay down the debt for the landfill litigation buy-out, begin work on a new jail, hire some land use and zoning consultants, and a few economic development experts, build airplane hangers, and...and...and....
you get your tax bills in 2009 you can think back to the good old days of 2007, and remember how low your taxes used to be. if you don't get involved, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Page County Watch said...

Yes. That's what I was trying to say.

When you look at the sky and see snow clouds, it's likely to snow.

These activities being taken right now will result in a very serious disastrous weather event. Right about the time we reach the next election and hopefully vote out the people who did it to us. But by then it will be too late, and the bills will be sitting there, needing to be paid.

So stop them before they sign the contracts.

Alice

Olivia Martens said...

"ain't seen nothin' yet said...
When the two new schools are completed, with water and sewer, and furnished, and LHS and PCHS have been rennovated, and when TWO middle schools and TWO high schools are fully staffed...."

One must wonder if we were not scammed by the Page County school administration over the alleged need for two middle schools. After all, the superintendent of a school system of only two high schools and five elementary schools certainly commands a lower level of compensation than the superintendent of a system with two high schools, two middle schools, and five elementary schools.

On September 6, ABC Evening News had a thought provoking item on middles schools in Kansas City, MO. It can be viewed at:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3569038

Anonymous said...

I have always wondered if the fact that PC hasn't ever had middle schools but just NS-7 and 8-12 has given the students more continuity since they didn't have to switch the 3 schools. Some students will have great difficulty in the middle schools. It seems like all the other areas are starting to get out of middle schools and we are just getting them. Maybe we have been smarter all along. I still don't understand how if the present LHS isn't usable as a HS, then what makes it usable for a MS? I really would like the school board to answer that.

Bill Wright said...

If we need a new county office building so bad, why doesn't the Board of Supervisors initiate condemnation procedings against the old Safeway/IGA property on east Main Street next to Hardees. Old Dr. George bought it 10 years ago and was going to convert it into a clinic but he never finished it before he got convicted for tax evasion and sent to jail. He also lost his medical license before that and had to close his office - such as it was. The county could probably get it for a decent price, finish rennovating it, and have an administration building with plenty of parking. Didn't Warren County do that with an old supermarket building? Now they've got a nice county government center - and for a lot less than buying prime property and building from scratch.

Anonymous said...

Chris says The County does not have people smart enough to do something like you propose.

Anonymous said...

$66k per acer is cheap, especially at that location. The county better get it while they can. They really should go across the street to the larger parcel though. It's flat and makes a lot more sense. what would make even more sense would be to think ahead rather than to react to what has already passed us by. Page is a nice place to come home to but has ruined itself by always striving to do the barest minimum instead of anything of good quality. Low bid mentality will always get exactly that.

Anonymous said...

The previous poster sounds like he or she might be the owner of the property across the street. There's not much indication that the county is in any kind of a bidding war for this property in question.

Why not offer the guy $30,000 an acre, which would in itself be an outrageous price, compared to what other options the seller has?

Anonymous said...

Dr. George's clinic would be a great place for county administration. Plenty of parking and room for expansion. It would also be an improvement to the neighborhood since the old SafeWay store building has been derelict for probably almost 15 years now. George bought it around 10 years ago and has done nothing to improve it and it really drags down the neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

If I had that property I sure as hell would not sell it for 30K an acre.

They arent' making any more flat 9 acre tracts of land on the bypass in town limits. That makes this land more valuable than whatever realestate sales were listed above.

I think the county should buy the land and proceed with replacing the county office building.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Cave and Mr. Sours, both ran on a platform that included promises to watch out for the people of their Districts as well as for the well being of the county as a whole. Mr. Cubbage was similarly inclined. The proposed purchase of property at an outrageous price has all of the earmarks of being designed to not only deny them the opportunity to question the action as sitting supervisors but also to vote on its approval. Mr. Cave and Mr. Sours should raise hell about this maneuver by the current Board and demand that any commitments of this nature be held in abeyance until they take their seats on the Board. After all, isn’t that what they promised to do during their campaigns? Or, did they just fool the voters and it will be business as usual at the old Courthouse? They will have the first test of how good their word is even before they take office.

Anonymous said...

Chris says Buisness as usual. Just set back and keep quiet the members on the board need not be questioned they are geniuses. Ha Ha. They know you will still vote for them because Page County is composed of a bunch of followers. Noone ever stands up hardly ever because they never get acknowledged and rewarded. A man could save the county and people millions and he could run for office and you would still vote for the man who has the big "R" beside his name because that's the culture. Alice talks about CULTURE but that is what it really is. Uneducated people voting for someone who is not gonna help them one bit just because they feel like they have before and have to now. Then the same uneducated fools vote for the people who are saving there money by spending there supporters. Makes no sense. But what around here does anymore.

Anonymous said...

Chris says Alice just an idea the post is way to long and most people ar not gonna read it all. Maybe cut down a little and get to the point.

Anonymous said...

Maybe BOSS HOGG could give us his prespective on this $66K per acre price for land for a new county complex.

Anonymous said...

So who are the "uneducated" Chris says since I had no problem reading it. That's what that type of jargon is like and I don't appreciate being referred to as uneducated. Maybe those were the ones who ran their mouth, but weren't even registered to vote. How can you make such a statement?

Anonymous said...

What has ever came of the old Wallace Building. It would be a great location for the new office, since the county is never gonna put a business in there that pays anywhere close to what Wallace did, or a business period. Everyone has to drive to make a decent pay check and then the county wants to take it to pay for schools and offices, and I don't even have kids so why am I paying for schools. The parents didn't ask for my help when they where making those kids, so why ask for my money to send them to a new school. I'll pay my part for the office but I shouldn't have to pay for the school.

Anonymous said...

Everyone has to drive to make a decent pay check and then the county wants to take it to pay for schools and offices, and I don't even have kids so why am I paying for schools. The parents didn't ask for my help when they where making those kids, so why ask for my money to send them to a new school. I'll pay my part for the office but I shouldn't have to pay for the school.

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. I am ashamed of living in the same area as you.

Anonymous said...

>>On Tuesday, November 13, 2007Sarah said...Maybe BOSS HOGG could give us his prespective on this $66K per acre price for land for a new county complex.<<

Dear Sarah - I'm sure we'll be hearing from the BOSS soon enough. No doubt at this very moment he's planning yet another petition to LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. Let's just hope the Big Bear and Mz. Daizy hibernate for the winter and let us recuperate.

Anonymous said...

Chris says The uneducated is the people not listening and caring about the issues only caring about what people think of them and to afraid to stand up because they'll be talked about. Talking about me hurts my feelins none what so ever. Fact is this County is full of folowers and not enough LEADERS. That is a fact. These are the type of people who would eat the apple because the snake told them to. Why? Because they easily fooled.

Anonymous said...

How can we talk, respond, debate, or argue if this is moderated constantly!! Come on people, tell Alice you are going to be good and obey the rules so this blog can go forward. I get so tired of waiting until Tuesday to see if someone has responded to something that was posted last Friday. We are all busy people, so lets just go with the flow and talk. To post as Anonymous should have no bearing whatsoever with this blog as long as everyone obeys the posting rules. (Although Bob Drumheller, in between bites of his McBreakfast roll Friday morning, stated that he did not go to a site because people there signed on as Anonymous.) He also said that now he was going to check out this site and he would "be sure and sign HIS name". I may have missed it but I don't recall seeing that anywhere so far. After all, PCW is also made up of Anonymous members. We don't ask for their names and Alice should have no reason to ask for ours which is what she has stated she has to do in order to make this an unmoderated forum. Let's do as SHE says and obey the posting rules so everyone can talk!!!!! Good grief, is this so hard, ALICE!!!!!

Anonymous said...

IF AN IMPROVED LOT IN LURAY THAT IS JUST A HAIR OVER 1/10TH OF ACRE IS ASSESSED AT $35,280 THEN........ APPARENTLY THE LAND IS WORTH THE ASKING PRICE. NOW WE ALL KNOW THE ASSESSMENT IS RIDICULOUS BUT THE FACT IS, UNLESS CHALLENGED WITHIN THE 2 YR TIME FRAME IT WILL STAND. I HAVE THE TAX BILL LAYING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AS I RESPOND. THERE IS NO COHERENT THREAD THAT I CAN FIND TO JUSTIFY THE ASSESSMENTS. SOME ARE RIDICULOUSLY LOW AND MOST ARE RIDICULOUSLY HIGH.

Anonymous said...

Gary, each time there is a reassessment landowners should do their own due diligence to see that their property is assessed reasonably. The board of equalization met with many people on matters such as the ones you are describing.

People just seem to like to hear themselves complain.

Anonymous said...

Chris says Most were high unless your name Was THE RIGHT NAME. you get the picture. Even Alice knows they were not fair and she will allow this post. You gotta keep these people's names out there to get some justice for the other poor citizens.

Anonymous said...

An improved riverfront lot, less than half an acre, is assessed at $35,000. Unless it isn't. 2 1/2 acres.with onsite water and sewer, next door is assessed at $42,000, for the whole property.

But didn't the Page News just say the land being bought is prime commercial property, assessed at $5,000 an acre? And then didn't somebody say in the Page News that was "ridiculously low" and not a market price? The only way that land will be worth $66,000 an acre is if somebody can be found to pay that amount for it. Hasn't it been for sale for many years, with no takers?

It's clear that these assessments we paid for are not market rates, no matter how you look at it.

Anonymous said...

comparing residential land values to commercial land values is apples to oranges.

location determines land values. the lots you guys are talking about a lacking a few things that contribute to what you feel is a high value.

1) 211 bypass access
2) town utilities


Lets not forget that a portion of this money is going to be refunded by the rescue squad when they move to the area.

Anonymous said...

Panties,
I can see your point.
But now I'm wondering why the assessors didn't see it.

Alice

Page County Watch said...

Note: There is a very well done FAQ on the county website, recently added, about the issue of buying this land.

Go to
www.pagecounty.virginia.gov

Click on Our Government, and then at the bottom left you will see FAQs and there are a number of white papers there, one of which covers this issue.

Anonymous said...

PCW thank you for informing me of that link.

That is a very informational article on the county's website. I feel that not only will the board vote to purchase the land, they will be doing the best thing for the future of the county.

Call your supervisior and recommend that they vote to purchase the land.

Anonymous said...

Alice, Let me tell you my story. I live in Luray and when the assessors did their thing and screwed up the land value, I hit the roof. After I had a meeting with the Board of Assessors, they did come down on my assessment but not much. I wonder how many other people that did not even set up a meeting with them, lost lots of money because of the high assessments? I made this comment to the Board of Assessors and to a member of the Board of Supervisors: I said that when the assessments were being done, land value was at its peak. By the time the taxes rolled around, land value drop in Page County by a large percent. My question to both of them was: Instead of lowering the tax to adjust the assessors high assessments, lower the assessments on all property accross the board for the county. Lower it to what ever percentage the Fair Market Value drops. The assessment is suppose to be 100% fair market value and if the value goes down so should the assessment. Once the assessment is right, then adjust the taxes if necessary. Because if you don't make the assessment right. The next time the assessments roll around, they are going to be even high because they were not reduced to fair market value during this assessment period. Of course it was a waste of time talking to either board. They put the blame on each other and said it was the others decision and they had no say. How can that be? I know that somebody has to take responibility for it. Also by living in town, I am double taxed. I have to pay county and town tax and that is not fair for people living in a town. I ask a member of the Board of Supervisors if this had ever been addressed. I was told it had been mentioned a long time ago, but they could not come up with a fair solution. I told this member if he had about thirty seconds I could give him the answer. I told this person that the county could subtract the amount of town tax paid from the amount of county tax that is owed for each residents that live in a town. That would be more fair then it is now and they would get some relief. Example: town tax is $100 and county tax is $400. That person would pay $100 town tax and $300 county tax. I know the county would have to find someway to adjust this loss of tax money, but at least it would be more fair to the people that pay double tax. That is not fair at all. County taxes may have to be raised but it would be fair to all citizens that live in the county. Commonsense is needed in government and it seems they are lacking it.

Anonymous said...

double taxed....you certainly knew about this "double tax" when you purchased your home. I know someone that cares as much as you wouldn't have made the mistake not to do their homework before what is probably the largest investment of their life.

why don't you move to the county? you would no longer be double taxed.

town taxes pay for different things than county taxes.

Page County Watch said...

In Full Support, I do agree that the article on the county website is very well done, and explains the issue extremely well.

I am, however, totally stunned to hear that commercial property near WalMart is selling for $300,000 an acre. Particularly since Rainbow Hill has been for sale for over a year, I think, maybe two years, and it has quite a lot of land, an existing building, and I don't think the sale price was reflective of that kind of market, and it hasn't sold.

So the article written by the county is excellently written. But I can't see how those property values can be real.

Alice

Anonymous said...

PCW -- the Parkhurst property doesn't have town utilities and Is being sold as a business, one that i cannot possibly images is making much money. to realize the true value of that property the building would have to be razed. (costly). It is not nearly as valuable as the property near LFCC.


I assume the 300K an acre figure is some of the padsites at the Luray Landing (where shanks law office is being constructed) is something like .25 acres for 75K for or something similar. this would call for the price of 300K per acre.

Anonymous said...

Sammy Baugh, I see you are like others on here, making comments when you have no clue what you are talking about. I have lived in the town of Luray all my life and I live in a family owned home that I grew up in. And if you must know, I have been looking for a place in the county to buy for a long time but I am not going to buy just any place. I want to live in the county but I have to buy what I can afford. So do you want to get your foot out of your mouth or should I go on? Let me go on so you can open your eyes. First of all, I would say 90% of a business is in a town (Luray Stanley Shenandoah). People that live in the county uses my streets and sidewalks, ect... That I pay for and they don't pay tax on them. My point is that people use more things in the town than people do in the county so if you want to know the truth, county people should pay tax to the towns as well. Now that would be fair too. Now as far as the county is concern, what do I use in the county that I have to pay for? MMMMM, let me see, county roads? No they are state maintained. A trash dumb? Yes because county officals went against the people and wasted taxpayers money. My trash use to cost nothing. So that is the county's fault, not mine. A Votec Center? I don't use that or have any kids that do. And they built that center before then had the money to do so when there are several centers in 50 miles of the county that could of been used until the county had the money to build it. Public Schools? I don't mind paying for education. And let me not forget the Sheriff's Office. But in case you did not know, the state pays for 2/3 of their salaries, and with grants and whatever the county wants to give them extra. The towns have their own police depts, so why sould I pay for the county's as well? Does the county citizens pay anything for the town police? NO! Yes I can go on and on and push that foot in your mouth a little deeper but I will stop there. I am sure by now it is pertty hard to swallow. If you want me to continue with more facts and reasons why it is not fair to be doubled taxed, I will be glad to give you some more schooling. Next time be sure to know what you are talking about and what the persons history maybe be before you stick another foot in your mouth. I am sure I can defend my views and prove it to you way more than you can prove with your views.

Anonymous said...

Alice, you don't have any comments on my first post? I am can't believe it! You see I had to set sammy baugh straight on a few things. Maybe you can help get his foot out of his mouth. It is in pretty deep! Don't you just love people like that? That's the problem with most on here and sammy is a good example. How do we weed out these type of people? And by the way, I would like your views on the first comment I posted. In my opinion, there is a lot of truth to it.

Anonymous said...

I agree with double taxed and sometimes you don't have a choice when you thought you were in the county and they " adjusted the boundaries" then you have to pay town taxes and get not benefits. I would like to see a group get together and see if a good lawyer can fight this. In Stanley they are doing this now and Shenandoah was done last year. They won't call it annexation b/c then the town has to provide services. With the boundary adjustment you just pay the tax and get NOTHING except a lighter checkbook. I would like to see a blog addressing this issue. At least Stanley was smart and began their boundary adjustment with the people who were "outside the town limits" but had already gotten sewer and water so it will benefit them b/c now they can pay less for their water and sewer. In Shenandoah that was not done and my mother is paying alot on a fixed income and I wanted to build a house beside her, but I will stay in the county.

Anonymous said...

Dont complain about buying land for the new county office building until you work there.You as citizens dont see what the worker see. As for the wallace building.Why buy something higher than what you can buy land and build for? The price didn't count for fixing it up and getting everything up to code.

Page County Watch said...

Double Taxed, it's not the purpose of a debate to weed out a differing viewpoint. When someone has a different view than you, that doesn't make them a "type of person." It makes them a person who has a different opinion.

Regarding my opinion on your opinion: I do believe there is a problem with the assessments and I hope that our re-elected Commissioner of Revenue will come up with a solution for that. I hope the 80% of the voters who re elected him will ask him what he's going to do about it.

Anonymous said...

PCW, it is not weeding out people's view points, it is the idea of them knowing what they are talking about that needs to be weeded out. Like sammy baugh. He must live in the county and he made comments on me that was not right so I had to set him straight. Too may on here speak and give opinions and do not know what they are even talking about. I think I explained my concern rather well and you have this guy making statements and has no idea what he is talking about. I would love to debate him and show how foolish his comments really are. Now I did not say he was foolish, I am talking about his comments to me. So don't go and delete this post. You have so many rules no one knows how to post things anymore. I agree with others that say let it roll and if they can not take it, stay off of here.

Anonymous said...

Double taxed Please relax, you are going to have a stroke. Settle down, settle.....

Your rant inspired me, it inspired me to take a nap.

Anonymous said...

Chris says this place is a joke these people seem to think the mindless babbling will accomplish WHAT?

Anonymous said...

Chris says Chris says this place is a joke these people seem to think the mindless babbling will accomplish WHAT?

Mindless babble eh?

Pot.Kettle.Black

Anonymous said...

Chris says Yeah at least I have enough sense to see where this county is going. Hold on I gotta go look in the toilet. Maybe I can find your brain there to. You are just a member of the clique trying to shut me up. Sorry unlike others I don't fear you.

Anonymous said...

To Chris says:

Sometimes we understand your posts, other times we don't. What are your recommendations for helping to solve some of the problems you are talking about? Elections are over, nothing can be done about that, so what are you saying can be done now concerning the injustices you see? We see your point, (we think) but don't understand exactly how you are going to help change things.

Anonymous said...

This election is over but a special election is coming! Just wait and see the out come! The winner will be the next loser when it is all said and done. So don't think for a minute the election is over. This is just the calm before the storm! And I will be sure to tell you I was right after it hits!

Anonymous said...

My Gosh and By Golly, you sound like you're expecting the Mother Ship to beam you up.

What is important in the county right now is that the Board of Supervisors is getting ready to put you under on your taxes.

There won't be any special election for any body on the Board of Supervisors. Nothing that occurs in any other office has any potential whatever to impact YOU.

Why don't you have enough sense to care about that?

Alice

Anonymous said...

Well Alice, I have plenty of sense. I have been directly talking to the Board of Supervisor of my district about all types of issues, I also have been talking to members of the School Board about education issues. So there is no reason to ask questions on here. So don't go making dumb statements about me or what I should do. You have no idea how much of a fuss I have made to them. See I can go to them directly and get answers. Now the Sheriff is another issue. I can't get answers directly from him. And the Feds are the only ones that have the answers I am looking for. And I doubt if they tell me. But I do have some insight on the investigation and I can tell you the election is not over by far. There are a lot of issues still on the table. I use to be friends with him, grew up with him, and supported him twice. I know what the real truth about some of the issues against him are. And I won't get into that. I have no one to talk to in relations with the Sheriff. So I am making statement that I know about and I don't support him anymore and if you look at last term he ran, compared to this term, He has lost a lot of votes. That has to tell you something. But anyway time will tell and you will find out I was right. I just wanted to enlighten you on a few things so you won't be making dumb statement about me or anyone else on here. I have the same concern about taxes and all the other bad things the county has stuck the taxpayers with over the years. So be careful what you say and make sure you know what you are talking about. Thanks....

Anonymous said...

I have 2 lots on Luray Ave.
(25Ft. X 150 Ft) accessed at $45,000. How can 9 acres be accessed at only $48,250?

Anonymous said...

I have 2 lots on Luray Ave.
(25Ft. X 150 Ft) accessed at $45,000. How can 9 acres be accessed at only $48,250?

Anonymous said...

I do know, for a fact, that 9.5 acres of land on Airport Road was up for sale this past summer for $237,000.00. The sign was there for less than 3 weeks and the Airport/Town/County...? put it "in reserve" and the sign came down. This was told to us by the realtor that advertised it.