The following are the notes of one citizen who attended the meeting of the Board of Supervisors on October 16, 2007. They are not official minutes of the meeting.
1. The Board met in closed session to talk about buying property for a business park and for a county office building.
2. They passed an ordinance to add more members to the Economic Development Authority and stagger terms.
3. They changed some people’s 911 addresses.
4. They appointed Tommy LaFrance and John Rust to a committee to consider who should own the airport. (It is currently owned 50-50 by the Town of Luray and the county, and apparently there’s some reason to change that.)
5. They changed 3 tax assessments that Charlie Campbell said were mistakes.
6. Big News Alert! Mark Belton had some figures that said some state agency measured our real estate sales in actuals, compared to our real estate assessments, and the measure was 92.7%. That means our assessments are a little bit LOW compared to actual sales. So Mark suggested that maybe we want to reassess sooner, so there is not so much of a gap between our market value and our assessments. Tommy said, we’ll just keep an eye on that number and when it changes too much in either direction we can reassess again.
7. They appointed people to committees: John Van Wyck (sp?) was appointed to the Northwest Community Services Board, Dawn Liscomb Ponn was appointed to the Planning Commission, and Robin Stevens was appointed to the Community Policy and Management Team.
8. Mark Belton explained that in 2004, there was a court ordered audit of the landfill, which was a result of a citizen lawsuit, or petition, or something. Well, here it is 2007, and the auditors are just getting around to doing it. This only came up because the auditors are now sending bills for their work. By the end of this month there should be an audit report of what happened to the landfill and why things went wrong. Mr. Rogerson (a member of the audience, not a board member), said the reason the citizens filed that lawsuit was in the hopes of getting some of the lost money recovered, which is now a moot point since it took so long to do the audit. The auditors are allowed by the court to bill $30,000 for their work. So the point is moot and irrelevant now, but the bill for the auditors is actual now. Mark thinks the report will say something like, “there was a bad contract in place and it wasn’t monitored closely”. But since the audit was court ordered, it will take place anyway.
9. The auditors for the fiscal year financials that ended June 30 will be late with their report this year because the documents they need were taken to the court in Abingdon.
10. Mr. La France wanted to set the record straight in response to Randy Arrington’s editorial in the Page News last week. Randy said there was an “us vs them” mentality between the county and the town, and he suggested there should have been more communication about the Salyards business, Shenandoah Waste Services, and maybe the three towns should have a seat on the Economic Development Authority. Tommy wanted to be sure everybody knew that there was this ordinance which had been in process of being passed since July 18, 2006, that would put new members on the EDA, including one from each town. He showed a stack of emails from Tom Cardman, Economic Development Director, and the town about the SWS business, and he pointed out that the town Planning Commission approved the SWS location. He said that 1 ½ to 2 years ago, the Board considered economic development to be the biggest challenge facing them, and they had to change from Industrial Development to Economic Development Authority and we are a Dillon Rule state, whatever that means, and now we’re adding people to the EDA, and all of this stuff takes time to get passed.
11. Tommy asked our attorney to look into other ways to make public announcements other than the Page News. (Now, would that action be motivated in order to make it easier for the public? Or is that vengeance over an editorial? Surely it must be because our Board Chairman is ever searching for ways to make the public aware of what the Board is doing.)
Citizen comments:
John Rogerson said:
1. If we build the longer runway at the airport and the hangars, and the people don’t come with their airplanes, are we going to end up having to pay out of our taxes for a failed airport that only benefits a few families? And also, putting John Rust and Tom LaFrance on the committee to discuss ownership of the airport is stacked, because both of them are for the airport expansion. (Tom answered this, and after many words, it sounded like the answer was yes, the taxpayers will be stuck with a loan that doesn’t get paid back if the airport were to fail to get the hangars filled.)
2. The purpose of the landfill lawsuit was both to hope to get some money back, and also to send a message to future Boards that they had to follow the law when paying invoices, and not just pay for things that hadn’t been received, just because they got a bill.
3. Maybe Randy didn’t get some things right in his editorial, but the fact that there is a dysfunctional relationship between the town and the county was the point, and that was correct. There is also a North-South divide in the county between the town of Luray vs the towns of Stanley and Shenandoah.
4. John Rogerson said Tom Cardman (EDA director) and Henry Mikus (Landfill Manager) both just got big pay raises, but the county hasn’t gotten any new business and the landfill doesn’t meet its minimum intake to breakeven. He wonders why pay isn’t tied to performance. He said it’s not right to say the landfill has forty years life left, because we were putting in 1500 to 2000 tons a day and that’s not calculated in correctly.
5. He said now that everybody knows you’re trying to buy land for an industrial park and for the county office building, everybody who’s willing to sell will raise the prices.
6. He said, for the county office building, why did you buy the land and get the plans ready, at a cost of $400,000 and then just throw them away over a tree that nobody knows where the documents are that say it’s a historical tree, and if you can overturn the guy’s will who didn’t want you to park the cars for the fairground on his land, why can’t you adapt the plans around an old tree?
Supervisors responses:
1. Charlie “Potted Plant” Hoke, said what he always says, “Thanks for coming.”
2. John Rust said, “Don’t forget to come out to vote. Voting is your input into government.”
3. Gerald Cubbage said a couple of interesting things, about building coalitions and getting the towns involved.
4. Carol Lee said coalitions are where it’s at, and Shenandoah has an office of the EDA and also a Chamber of Commerce in Stevens Cottage.
5. Tom said the airport is paid for 95% by federal, 3% by state, 1% by county and 1% by town. If the hangars are built there is a federal grant plus the county has to give a loan to the airport for the rest, but the loan will be paid back from the money for renting the hangars. The hangars need 27 out of 30 filled in order to pay the loan back.
So that’s your local government at work.
Alice's Opinion: Leadership is in choosing the topics to be discussed, in setting the course, and in working toward goals. What are the goals here? What is not being talked about that needs to be? What issues are not addressed and ignored every time they're brought up? VOTE NOVEMBER 6. Good, informed voting is the beginning of good government. Then holding those elected accountable to the people is step 2.
And I'm just going to ASSUME that Chairman LaFrance asked the county attorney to find a way to inform the public about hearings other than the Page News because our Board Chairman is concerned about getting the news out to the people in better ways.
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Leadership is in choosing the topics to be discussed, in setting the course, and in working toward goals. What are the goals here? What is not being talked about that needs to be? What issues are not addressed and ignored every time they're brought up? VOTE NOVEMBER 6. Good, informed voting is the beginning of good government. Then holding those elected accountable to the people is step 2.
I would like to know what issues were not addressed or ignored at this meeting?
In my opinion, I'm speaking in terms of leadership for the county, and what issues need to be addressed, in order to make the county become what its citizens want it to be. Depending on what the leaders consider to be the "goal issues", those things are chosen to be discussed.
If you took a survey of the citizens, perhaps you would find, that taxes and jobs are first, followed by responsiveness in government, and preserving the rural nature coming in last, but still on the list. But without taking that survey of the citizens, how do you know what your goals are? Answer: you follow the comprehensive plan, which the citizens did not participate in developing. And then there you are, doing everything in your power to Keep Page County Poor, like the plan says.
So . . .what issues were not addressed? Examples:
1. Capital improvements like buying land and building a county office building, will increase taxes again. What can you do to prevent that from happening? John Rogerson keeps pointing out that the old county office building has a location, and you already paid $400,000 for those plans. What's wrong with using them? A tree? We have a lot of trees. We don't have a lot of money.
2. The board received a petition from 400 citizens about a school resource officer. Where did it go? What happened to it? The school board didn't get it back, it's not their move.
3. Randy's editorial was about the fact that every time a new initiative comes in: the county office building, the regional jail, and the SWS, the county proposes that it be placed in the town. That's because the county comprehensive plan says, "push all activity into the towns and keep it out of our beautiful scenery". Then the town gets annoyed. He may have gotten the details wrong, but he got the attitude right.
It's not about specific questions as much as it is about direction and attitude. Are you trying to be responsive to what the citizens want? Do you know what they want? Or, do you believe the citizens are not qualified to know what they want, and it's your job to decide that for them?
A leader checks to see where the crowd is going and quick runs out to stand in front of them. The crowd isn't going where this board wants to lead them.
"Preserving the rural nature" is not the primary goal. It's a "sure, we want that", as a secondary goal. It's jobs and economy, not scenery, that people care about. If you think it's scenery, then do everything you can to get the retirees in here over the next two years, so that in the next election, you'll have voters that agree.
That's my opinion. But my opinion is just one person's opinion. I'm not on the Board. The real question is, what does the Board think the voters want, and how is it going about leading to that goal? How does it know what the voters want, and how does it interact with the citizens to make sure it is going in the direction that serves them?
Right now, the majority of the citizens seem to think the Sheriff decides all this stuff. Does that mean the Board doesn't need to know and understand them, and respond to their needs? If the majority of the population is uninformed about the nature of how they are governed, does that mean their opinions about what they want shouldn't count?
It seems to me that in a county that has a 65% rate of adults over age 25 who have a high school education, compared to a national average over 80%, (2004-2005 Virginia census data) that the county government should be thinking about offering some options for jobs, training, and economic value as a high priority.
Just my thoughts. Others have different opinions. Coalitions and consensus have to be formed before you can lead. Or else you're going to look like a CLIQUE.
Alice
I have a job and would prefer for the supervisiors concentrate on preserving the rural nature of the area.
Unemployment figures are near historical lows.
LaFrance is concerned about getting news out to the people better? Bull.
He's upset because the editor wrote a fairly vanilla piece about the need for the Towns and County to get along? And he's a politician?
I say LaFrance needs to get a little thicker skin; talking about being sensative and the Code of VA requires local governments to advertise in the "local paper of record", I will be interested to hear Mr. Shank's opinion on this...
A strange scent is in the air, I believe it is called represenative goverment, thats why the current supervisors are on edge they know there is going to be a change in guard, and Page county will never be the same again, THANK GOD
The citizens of Page County, don't worry about where the money is going to come from......Those new airport hangers and that airport expansion will bring in lots of business. There will no unemployment, the county will be flush with cash, and everyone will get tax rebate checks.
If anyone believes that then I've got some land for sale right in the path of the airport expansion.
Everyone should be telling, no demanding, the board to slow down....let's get our debt in order.(by the way has anyone seen Page county's A/R, A/P, or General Leadger? It would be interesting to see those numbers.)
$400,000 for this, $40,000 for that, $50 million for those.....
Geez....
Definition ;This ruling became known as the Dillon Rule and most states soon adopted it. Virginia was one of them and remains one of a few states to continue to narrowly interpret it. Localities cannot do anything the Virginia code does not expressly allow them to do. It is a one-size-fits-all, top-down approach to government.
So what does this mean? Take real estate. Recently, residential real estate values have been increasing at a rapid rate. Localities, in an attempt to reduce the burden on homeowners, are looking for solutions. One such solution is a homestead exemption, whereby a certain portion of the assessment goes untaxed. Another solution would be a different rate for residential assessments than for commercial assessments. Neither of these options are available under Virginia law, which requires all property to be assessed at the same rate and at 100% of fair market value.
I too believe there's a change under way.Long overdue but it's a coming. Page County will be better off.
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